Why There's No Write-offs Allowed for Investment Seminars

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Julian Block
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The line isn’t always clear on what qualifies as deductible investment expenses, but what’s absolutely apparent is that investors can’t deduct costs incurred to attend conventions, seminars, or similar meetings at which they obtain information that helps them select strategies.

Nondeductible expenditures include airfares and other travel costs to meeting sites, attendance fees and meals, lodging and local travel while attending. What prompted Congress to enact this prohibition?

A key factor was the unhappiness of the IRS with the pro-taxpayer position taken by the Tax Court in a dispute involving Lorraine Gustin of Brown Deer, WI, someone who was a serious student of the stock market.

Lorraine devoted a considerable amount of time to managing her portfolio and held posts in the National Association of Investment Clubs, an organization that holds conventions where members can discuss investment strategies with stock market analysts and other experts and listen to presentations from executives about their companies.

During the year selected for audit by the IRS, Lorraine’s pursuit of profits took her to investment club conferences in Amsterdam, Cleveland, and San Diego.

Lorraine deducted her expenses for attending the three meetings, but not those of her husband. Nor did she deduct the cost of their post-convention side trips to places like the Greek Islands and San Francisco. The IRS argued that her expenditures of $2,400 for airfares, meals, and hotel rooms were nondeductible personal expenses since collecting investment information wasn’t the main reason for her treks to conventions.

But the court was convinced by Lorraine’s testimony that “her attendance at the convention was part of a rationally organized investigation into investment opportunities and strategies. It was reasonable to spend $2,400 to protect and enhance a portfolio worth $98,000. Any personal benefits of the trip were secondary to the investment benefits.” Moreover, the information that she obtained at the conventions from analysts and company representatives directly influenced her later decisions on what stocks to add to or remove from her portfolio.

Predictably, those spoilsports at the IRS persuaded an accommodating Congress that Lorraine’s victory should be short-lived. Therefore, tucked into the Internal Revenue Code is a provision that wipes out any tax breaks for investment seminars – a move that made such gatherings less alluring to investors.

A saving grace is that the disallowance applies only to outlays made for investment reasons, like those of investors seeking to obtain information about whether to buy or sell particular stocks. It doesn’t apply when costs are incurred for business reasons, like those of financial advisers who meet with prospective clients as part of their jobs.

To illustrate, International Investors holds conventions at which stock market investors pay for the opportunity to discuss strategies with representatives of brokerage firms and listen to presentations from executives about their companies. Result: While the seminar measure bars write-offs of expenses by investors, it leaves unchanged the rules governing write-offs of expenses by stock brokers and others who are at the conventions for business reasons.  

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About Julian Block

About Julian Block

Attorney and author Julian Block is frequently quoted in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post. He has been cited as “a leading tax professional” (New York Times), an “accomplished writer on taxes” (Wall Street Journal), and “an authority on tax planning” (Financial Planning magazine). More information about his books can be found at julianblocktaxexpert.com

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Aug 24th 2017 00:12

This is a very interesting article. Though you might not be able write off investment seminars, there are plenty of other deductions for independent contractors that can be included on 1099 forms.

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Oct 23rd 2017 09:33

I don’t think that the expenses for such programs can be completely written off. These are occasions when the marketers can get a lot of knowledge regarding the updates on industry. Such costs cannot be considered as loss for the business. high speed internet deals

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